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Supporting your child is simply a matter of loving him or her.
- November 5th, 2009, 08:35 pm
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So it's all or nothing? Either the household income remains the same or it is completely absent?

I know that this is probably beyond your comprehension, but even though kids do need basic material needs provided for them, they have non-material needs as well. It's not only an issue of income - it's an issue of balancing all their needs with economic realities.

Thanks, now that I have made 20 posts (all getting one star) stating this.

Economic reality means I cannot afford to provide for more than one house. Economic reality means affordibility of children rests upon two incomes in the household. Economic reality means persons who dump their partner do not deserve their partner's money!

I get that children need other things, like demonstration of the importance of work ethic. I figure I am good with that.
- November 5th, 2009, 08:41 pm
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- November 5th, 2009, 08:48 pm
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I might point out again that your original position was that child support was always terrible, that apparently it always involves women who leave their husbands and collect checks for a living after that.

Just to clarify: is your statement about all child support or just those cases where the woman is trying to squeeze a life out of her husband's work? Also, do you agree that child support payments vary greatly and usually do not result in the non-custodial parent contributing 50% of the cost of raising their child?
- November 5th, 2009, 08:52 pm
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D_Lion wrote :
Sure glad I make the right decision before hand. It's best not to take these risks at all.
"The person who risks nothing, does nothing, has nothing, is nothing, and becomes nothing. He may avoid suffering and sorrow, but he simply cannot learn and feel and change and grow and love and LIVE!
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- November 5th, 2009, 09:00 pm
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I state that my values are that payments never be made to ex-partners, for any "reason."

That costs of children rest with the person having possession, and that the person without possession has no economic obligation.

That the detail provided in many posts is far beyond what my salary can provide, and that expenses in excess of what I can provide are not appropriate, regardless of what was available prior to marital dissolution or that the ex-partner wants.

Further, I state that a person should never have a government-mandated expense which causes extraordinary hardship, such as losing one's home or being deprived of his income.
- November 5th, 2009, 09:03 pm
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marguitar wrote :
"The person who risks nothing, does nothing, has nothing, is nothing, and becomes nothing. He may avoid suffering and sorrow, but he simply cannot learn and feel and change and grow and love and LIVE!
-Leo Buscaglia
Great quote!
- November 5th, 2009, 09:06 pm
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D_Lion wrote :
Thanks, now that I have made 20 posts (all getting one star) stating this.

Economic reality means I cannot afford to provide for more than one house. Economic reality means affordibility of children rests upon two incomes in the household. Economic reality means persons who dump their partner do not deserve their partner's money!

I get that children need other things, like demonstration of the importance of work ethic. I figure I am good with that.
OMG! I missed a few.

*CO scampers off to one-star other Pon Farr inspired posting lunacy.*
Last edited by clearlyoblique; November 5th, 2009 at 09:57 pm. Reason: Incidentally, not all your posts were rated. But I hate to see you exaggerate, so I fixed it for ya!
- November 5th, 2009, 09:20 pm
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D_Lion wrote :
I state that my values are that payments never be made to ex-partners, for any "reason."

That costs of children rest with the person having possession, and that theperson without possession has no economic obligation.

That the detail provided in many posts is far beyond what my salary can provide, and that expenses in excess of what I can provide are not appropriate, regardless of what was available prior to marital dissolution or that the ex-partner wants.

Further, I state that a person should never have a government-mandated expense which causes extraordinary hardship, such as losing one's home or being deprived of his income.
Ok, in my case, my ex was the sole source of income and he volunteered 80% of his income because he did not want possession of the children. So he wasn't being deprived by a goverment mandate, he knew upfront what he would have to live off of and he choose to sign the divorce papers. And he choose to give up any and all physical possession of our children. And even though he's entitled to full visitation, he refuses to fulfill that obligation of the divorce degree.
- November 5th, 2009, 09:20 pm
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sabete2002 wrote :
Again, "thousands" of $$$? For Tae Kwan Do??? Where are you getting these numbers from?
What I paid for TaeKwonDo lessons for my daughter, in the midwest:

$94/month + $80 extra every other month for testing + one-time expense for gear, patches on uniform, etc. It took about 3 years to earn her black belt. Totals right around $5,000. More if you want to include the mileage cost of getting her to the lessons.

Pride in my daughter, and her self-confidence in accomplishing that goal = priceless.
- November 5th, 2009, 09:21 pm
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